Saving a framed image

[tonygamble]

I seemed to get a degradation when saved and tried to print out an image in a frame.

Is it possible by working in tif

Tony

[ksinkel]

Tony,

I am not sure what you mean by a degradation. A very low setting in Joeg quality can cause degradation. In that case you should increase jpeg quality.

Incidentally, the new PWP 7 beta has a special transformation for framing and matting which gives you many interesting options for creating framed images. You might want to give it a try. The beta is available here: http://www.dl-c.com/Temp/pwp70beta/index.html

Kiril

[tonygamble]

Kiril,

Yes, I am using the new beta.

Maybe I started with a poor image but the result was lacking in tone, saturation and contrast.

I''ll try again tomorrow.

I'd only work in tif. Seems silly not to.

My plan is to take a tif. Add a frame. Export to another tif. Print with Qimage - which I know and trust for printing.

I'll report back.

Tony

[jsachs]

In the Mat & Frame transformation, click the Image tab and make sure you are specifying enough resolution in the result image in terms of its size and dpi setting.

Otherwise adding a frame should not alter the color or tonality of the image inside the frame - try printing with and without the frame and comparing the results.

[tonygamble]

Thanks JS,

I'll do some experimenting today.

Someone else interested on DPR

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3395373

I'll report back when I have done what you suggested. At the moment I am making a 'frame' for Qimage but that is a clumsy and inflexible route as it locks me into colours and textures, whereas creating a file that contained the image and your frame would be far simpler.

Tony

[tonygamble]

Jonathan,

I am clearly doing something wrong with the way I have PWPv7 set up.

This is the original jpg
http://www.tonygamble.org/pwpframes/orig.jpg

When I put the frame around it the contrast and saturation drop.
http://www.tonygamble.org/pwpframes/opening%20frame.jpg

Here is the PWP screen with the original and the framed version.
http://www.tonygamble.org/pwpframes/pwp%20screen.jpg

I hope my screen shots are clear enough to show the difference. If I save the framed image I get the less contrasty and less saturated result. Clearly something is odd with my configuration of PWP.

Over to you Kiril or Jonathan, please.

Tony

[tonygamble]

OK, I see where the problem is coming from.

The shots that differ when they go into a frame have got some form of profile embedded in the tif or jpg. I use Qimage to convert my RAWs (sorry DLC!) and they come over with info like Panasonic DMC-GH3 Qimage V3 or Canon 5D- Qimage V3.

They look fine whilst I manipulate them in PWP but when I put them into a frame they become 'weak'.

I have just re-converted some RAWs using Qimage and embedding them as sRGB's and now the framed and matted images are as vibrant as the unframed ones.

I'm not aware that working them with these sRGB profiles is going to create problems so that is the way forward for me.

At the moment I have a nice 300 by 400 print coming out of the machine and I have even been able to add my signature on the matte using PWP. As long as my wife (the world's soundest critic) approves I will do that for the rest of my exhibition prints.

Tony