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by tomczak
March 6th, 2011, 4:47 am
Forum: Picture Window Support
Topic: Flash Light Temperature
Replies: 17
Views: 8482

Re: Flash Light Temperature

There are channel multiplier values listed in EXIF/MakerNotes. Is that where dcraw reads them from to, then, derive Colour Temp and Tint values?
by tomczak
March 5th, 2011, 4:58 pm
Forum: Picture Window Support
Topic: Flash Light Temperature
Replies: 17
Views: 8482

Re: Flash Light Temperature

When PWP RAW uses WB=Camera WB, where does it read the value(s) from? An EXIF/MakerNotes? I can't match the values of Colour Temp and Tint with anything that I can see in the EXIF.
by tomczak
March 5th, 2011, 3:31 pm
Forum: Picture Window Support
Topic: Flash Light Temperature
Replies: 17
Views: 8482

Re: Flash Light Temperature

I noticed that as PWP RAW recalculates the preview, the Noise Reduction (if it's used) is applied twice: once for the WB and once afterward. Is that how it works? If it is, would it be possible and would it make sense to always apply the NR for the white balance (regardless if NR is actually used or...
by tomczak
March 5th, 2011, 3:16 pm
Forum: Picture Window Support
Topic: Flash Light Temperature
Replies: 17
Views: 8482

Re: Flash Light Temperature

Thank you - the large amount/level of noise reduction seem to make the WB much more consistent. All in all the actual light temperature of the flash (a build-in, compact flash) as I figured doing the test above seems to be around 6500K, this is quite different from both: the PWP RAW flash preset and...
by tomczak
March 5th, 2011, 2:27 pm
Forum: Picture Window Support
Topic: Flash Light Temperature
Replies: 17
Views: 8482

Re: Flash Light Temperature

I shot a Macbeth chart in total darkness, using flash only. When setting white balance in PWP RAW using the white balance probe on the gray patches, I can get temperatures between 5500K and 6800K, pretty much randomly depending on a click, even within the same patch (and even more heterogeneous if c...
by tomczak
February 28th, 2011, 8:31 am
Forum: Picture Window Support
Topic: Flash Light Temperature
Replies: 17
Views: 8482

Re: Flash Light Temperature

What I meant re. the temperatures was that if a lamp had an actual colour temperature of say 5500K, but the preset WB in camera/raw for flash was higher (e.g. 6800), the resultant image will be warmer. Right? Since it is a small built-in flash unit, I thought that it was done on purpose to skew the ...
by tomczak
February 27th, 2011, 10:45 pm
Forum: Picture Window Support
Topic: Flash Light Temperature
Replies: 17
Views: 8482

Re: Flash Light Temperature

Thanks Kiril, I guess my question is: are the relatively high flash colour temperatures hard-coded in Canon WB for it's in-camera flash units, realistic - is it possible that they describe the average actual light colour or did Canon cranked them up to make the images look warmer? I have no way of m...
by tomczak
February 27th, 2011, 4:49 pm
Forum: Picture Window Support
Topic: Flash Light Temperature
Replies: 17
Views: 8482

Re: Flash Light Temperature

That was 6350K and ~6800K for Canon cameras, not 5350K.
by tomczak
February 27th, 2011, 4:36 pm
Forum: Picture Window Support
Topic: Flash Light Temperature
Replies: 17
Views: 8482

Flash Light Temperature

PWP RAW uses 5500K as a flash colour temperature. One Canon camera seems to be using 5350K, while another ~6800K if WB is set manually to flash. How come? Do electronic flashes differ that much in colour, or does Canon crank it up on purpose to make the images look warmer?
by tomczak
February 27th, 2011, 3:50 pm
Forum: Picture Window Support
Topic: Match Reference and Macbeth Dynamic Range
Replies: 13
Views: 11403

Re: Match Reference and Macbeth Dynamic Range

I'm struggling with details in my experiments with Macbeth, and I just want to check my understanding of fundamentals of Match reference, which I thought I understood, but I'm not sure any longer. In theory, with monitor calibrated, if I take a properly exposed picture of Macbeth colour chart illumi...