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william adams
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Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

I am experimenting with different tints using the tint transformation and colour lines files and would like to do selenium, gold, sepia tints and the like. The problem is that I have no experience in a traditional darkroom and don't really know what these tints look like. Can anyone recommend a good book that shows examples of each type of tint? Thanks

Bill
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David Willecke
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Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

There are several posts in this board that deal with tinting you might look at. Tim Rudman just put out a book on toning, and his Master Printing Course has some good toning stuff. Creative Elements by Eddie Ephraums is my personal favorite for landscape toning and I have used it and others to construct tint files in PWP. Those others threads discuss this at length with 4 or 5 people that are using PWP in that way regularly.

Have Fun
David Willecke
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william adams
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Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2003 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Thanks for the tip David, I will look for both the threads and the Book

Bill
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den
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Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2003 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

Another place you might like to look for tints, monochrome images, and concepts is www.photo.net, which is their home page and click on “top-rated photos”. For example… the current “photo of the week” is Siegfried B.’s “Lighthouse Park”:

LHPark

From which the following *.cln file was derived using PWP’s Readout tool. [Note: the Cln file information is shown in *.txt format]:

Colorline 1.0
ncolors 5
color 0 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
transition 0 line rgb
color 1 0.2470 0.2470 0.2710 0.2780
transition 1 line rgb
color 2 0.4980 0.4980 0.5220 0.5290
transition 2 line rgb
color 3 0.7530 0.7530 0.7800 0.7880
transition 3 line rgb
color 4 1.0000 1.0000 1.0000 1.0000
end

For further information of the *.cln file development, see “johnn”’s Dec 03 2003 02:30 pm post at: www.dl-c.com/discus/messages/2/1815.html

If you haven’t already done so… download “CLN files.zip” from DL-C’s download page for some interesting and excellent cln files, including those developed by David Willecke.

johnn…. I haven’t sent this one to you and it’s blue!!

If anyone would like further explanation on how the cln file above was developed, I can post a "how to". Just post a request here.
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william adams
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

I would like to know how you developed the cln file and would appreciate it if you posted a "how to".

thanks

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den
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Posted on Monday, January 05, 2004 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post

A Method To Develop A Tint from an Image

The following is based upon WinMe, PWP31h, Excel, Notepad, and Siegfried B.’s “Lighthouse Park” image [Large] from www.photo.net . It provides a 5 color *.cln file where color 0 is black and color 4 is white. Colors 1, 2, and 3 are tabulated RGB values at HSV,V of values: 25.0, 50.0, and 75.0 respectively [25%, 50%, 75%].

Step 1: Open the image from which the tint is to be developed and the Readout tool. Set the Readout tool for HSV and locate a value for V on the image approximately = 25.0 [25%]. When a 25.0 V value is found, switch to RGB readout and record the RGB values. Repeat for HSV,V = 50.0 and 75.0 [50% and 75%].

Additional Notes:
1. Default Readout tool setting is in percent: a value of 25.0 is 25.0% is 0.250 is 0.2500.
2. It is important to use HSV,V as the determiner across the tonal range. In this case, HSV,V is the same as B, but if this was a gold tint, then HSV,V would be the same as R.

HT1

Step 2: The recorded values can be put into a spreadsheet program, copied, and pasted into a text program or the values can be directly entered in the text program observing strict text format, spellings, and number formats. I prefer the spreadsheet approach as it is easier to expand the number of colors and lessens text format errors as long as you remember to remove the “tab” text operators that result from the empty spreadsheet cells being copied into the text program.

HT2

Step 3: Save text file as *.cln file.

HT3

Step 4: Apply the new tint to an image.

HT4

Don’t stop here. Continue to analyze your newly tinted image for enhancements using curve transforms, darken and lighten, and “add noise” [grain] tools as needed to provide the tonal impact you wish others to see when they view your image.

Questions? … Please ask.
If there is a simpler method and/or error in this approach. … Please advise.

Hope this was of help.......
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meow
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Username: Meow

Post Number: 15
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 01:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post

Wow! Thank you so much for posting this. I understand much better now.

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